Thomas Voce Martha Voce Mini tree diagram

Joseph Fisher

2nd Feb 1812 -

Life History

2nd Feb 1812

Born in Upholland, Near Skelmersdale, Lancashire


? Had a 'relationship' with Martha Voce


Birth of son Thomas Voce in Bickerstaffe, Lancashire


Joseph Fisher 'Voce' and Martha are shown as Thomas Voce's parents in a tree sent to Mary.

In the 1841 census, at the Old Royal Oak, in Bickerstaffe

Joseph Fisher, 25, MS

MS stands for Male Servant, but probably means he was a farm hand
The owner/proprietor of the Old Royal Oak is: 'John Sutton, 45, Farmer'.
Apart from his wife and family of 8 there is also: one FS (female servant), at least four young men, each recorded as 'MS', and another farmer in the household.

In the 1851 Census this looks like the same Joseph, at 9, Woodstock Street, Liverpool:

Joseph FisherHeadMar.40Labourer At BreweryWigan, Lancashire
Elizabeth FisherWifeMar.33Wife's Labourer At BreweryWigan, Lancashire
Elizabeth FisherDaughter3 Up Holland, Lancashire
John FisherSon1Liverpool, Lancashire

[Wigan is 4 or 5 miles to the east of Skelmersdale - on the Up Holland side - not shown in the maps below.]

From IGI

Christening: 02 FEB 1812, Upholland, Lancashire

'Up Holland' is just the other side of Skelmersdale from Bickerstaffe

Maps of the area



Map borrowed from Genuki.